Advice Line with Kenneth Cole
Kenneth Cole joins the advice line to help founders build lasting brands. Matt Jacobs of Pedestrian Project asks how to grow a bootstrapped wellness brand, Levi Case of Swing Sculpt wonders how to price custom golf jewelry, and Emma Fakwade of ISRAELLA KOBLA seeks advice on scaling a made-to-order fashion label. Kenneth shares lessons from 40+ years of Kenneth Cole Productions on storytelling, customer loyalty, and social purpose.
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Episode Recap
Intro
On this Advice Line episode, Kenneth Cole returns to How I Built This to help three founders solve real business challenges. Drawing on 40+ years of building Kenneth Cole Productions, he shares hard-won wisdom on brand longevity, pricing confidence, and scaling without losing identity.
Caller 1: Matt Jacobs & Pedestrian Project
Matt Jacobs calls from Astoria, New York with a bootstrapped foot care brand that did $500,000 in sales last year. Pedestrian Project sells moisturizers, creams, lotions, pain relief, salt soaks, and accessories through a mix of D2C, Amazon, and Sprouts retail. He still consults part-time and is considering institutional funding. Kenneth's advice centers on the difference between selling products and building a fulfilling experience that makes customers want to come back. He emphasizes understanding customers emotionally rather than telling them what they should want.
Caller 2: Levi Case & Swing Sculpt
Levi Case founded Swing Sculpt, a golf brand that transforms swing data into custom art and jewelry. Each piece is made-to-order from the customer's actual swing motion, making every ring or pendant a one-of-a-kind keepsake. The challenge: how do you price something so personal when the market expects commodity pricing? Kenneth frames the answer around meaning. Swing Sculpt does not compete on price or logo recognition — it competes on the emotional weight of preserving a perfect shot. That narrative justifies premium pricing because the value is not in the metal; it is in the memory.
Caller 3: Emma Fakwade & ISRAELLA KOBLA
Emma Fakwade calls from Toronto with a luxury made-to-order fashion label built on engineering precision. ISRAELLA KOBLA rejects overproduction by crafting each piece on demand, which creates sustainability but complicates scale. Kenneth points to the brand's Nordstrom placement as proof that independent design can coexist with major retail. The challenge now is protecting that independence while meeting the demands of a larger partner. His advice: stay tethered to the atelier process that made the brand distinctive, because that is the asset Nordstrom actually bought.
Final Thought
Kenneth closes by reframing brand identity. The man and the brand are somewhat interchangeable, he says, and that is not a burden — it is a shortcut to trust. When customers know who you are and what you stand for, they do not need a TikTok trend to convince them. They need a reason to return.
Key Takeaways
- 1Build a unique narrative, not just a product: Kenneth Cole learned that lasting brands are built on story, not features. In a crowded market, your voice must distinguish you from the noise.
- 2Create fulfilling experiences, not transactions: Cole's goal shifted from selling stuff to creating experiences that make customers want to return again and again.
- 3Understand your customer emotionally: Rather than telling people what they should want, listen to what they actually need — and deliver it unexpectedly well.
- 4Use your platform for social purpose: Cole built the Mental Health Coalition because the need was real. Purpose-driven initiatives create value beyond marketing when they are genuinely embedded in the business model.
- 5Protect your identity as you scale: Emma Fakwade's challenge mirrors Cole's — growing without losing the atelier-level craftsmanship that made the brand distinctive.
Founders Featured

Kenneth Cole
Kenneth Cole is founder, chairman and creative director of Kenneth Cole Productions, the 40-year brand he launched in 1983. A recent guest on the How I Built This podcast, he appointed Jed Berger as CEO and president to shift the brand to a marketing-led storytelling model, with Emily Cole as...

Matt Jacobs
Matt Jacobs co-founded Pedestrian Project. The natural foot care brand champions a more walkable world. He appeared as a guest on the How I Built This podcast to share its origin story.

Emma Fakwade
Emma Fakwade, engineer-turned-designer and HIBT Podcast guest, is founder, creative director and fashion engineer of Toronto-based luxury made-to-order label ISRAELLA KOBLA. The British-born Ghanaian designer’s brand redefines minimalism with structured, boldly feminine pieces, now at Nordstrom...

Levi Case
Levi Case founded Swing Sculpt, the golf brand featured on How I Built This. The company transforms golfers’ fleeting swing motion into timeless custom art and jewelry.
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