Advice Line with Pete Maldonado and Rashid Ali of Chomps
Guy Raz hosts an Advice Line special with Chomps co-founders Pete Maldonado and Rashid Ali, who offer real-time guidance to three founders facing growth dilemmas. Yadi Derisse contemplates expansion beyond her successful campus empanada shop. Zachary Bonder wrestles with e-commerce logistics for his frozen pies. Josh Shrenko seeks direction for his niche Smallmouth Bass apparel brand. The Chomps founders draw on their 13-year journey to advise on scaling thoughtfully, avoiding premature complexity, and staying close to core customers.
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Episode Recap
Guy Raz sits down with Chomps co-founders Pete Maldonado and Rashid Ali for an Advice Line episode packed with practical wisdom for founders at inflection points.
Intro
In this Advice Line special, Pete and Rashid bring their 13 years of grassroots growth experience to bear on three distinct challenges: scaling a physical retail operation, navigating e-commerce for perishables, and building a lifestyle brand around a hyper-specific niche. Their advice centers on depth before breadth—knowing when to replicate success versus when to explore new channels.
Caller 1: Yadi Derisse & Yadi's Artisanal Empanadas
Yadi Derisse calls in with a classic success problem: her empanada shop on the SUNY New Paltz campus averages $3,000 daily sales, and she's wondering whether to open a second location, pursue distribution, or both. Pete and Rashid quickly identify the real question isn't "can she grow?" but "what's the right growth vector?" Pete emphasizes that her existing operation runs smoothly without her constant presence, which is a prerequisite for expansion. They probe about labor, management, and real estate costs. Pete suggests a commissary model—central kitchen with delivery to multiple locations—similar to how New York bagel operations scale. Rashid adds that college towns provide a captive audience, but seasonality is a real cash flow consideration. The consensus: distribution or a food truck could extend reach without the fixed costs of a second brick-and-mortar. Yadi leaves with a clear next step: explore a hybrid model combining a small commissary with targeted retail rollouts within 45 miles.
Caller 2: Zachary Bonder & Noble Pies
Zachary Bonder, co-owner of Noble Pies, faces a different challenge: shipping costs have forced him off QVC, and he's considering bringing back e-commerce despite the logistical headaches. His frozen pies face natural friction in direct-to-consumer shipping. Pete acknowledges the high cost barrier but points to niche brands that make it work by leaning into seasonality and gift-giving moments. He suggests surveying existing customers to gauge appetite for online ordering, perhaps starting with limited regional shipments. Zachary also worries about cannibalizing his wholesale accounts. Pete's take: don't fear channel overlap if each serves a distinct purpose. E-commerce can build brand affinity and collect customer data that wholesale can't. They also touch on the importance of velocity—watching repeat purchase rates before scaling acquisition. Zachary walks away with a testing plan: soft-launch e-commerce for holiday gifts, measure unit economics, and decide based on data whether to invest further.
Caller 3: Josh Chrenko & Achiegen Brand
Josh Chrenko represents the niche-of-a-niche founder: his company, Achiegen Brand, is the "official brand of Smallmouth Bass," selling apparel and lures to an incredibly specific community. He's reached year five and wonders how to break out of his current niche without diluting what makes his brand special. Pete and Rashid immediately recognize the power of staying narrow. They advise Josh to deepen his relationship with the existing tribe before chasing broader audiences. Pete asks about the podcast Josh started—that's a powerful content asset to grow the community. Rashid suggests the eventual lure line could be the gateway product to bring new people into the ecosystem. The central insight: lifestyle brands centered on passionate interests rarely Need to "expand" in the traditional sense; they need to become the undisputed category leader and then extend naturally from that position of trust. Josh realizes his growth path might be more lures, more content, and maybe leveraging his community as ambassadors rather than chasing mainstream retail.
Final Thought
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Key Takeaways
- 1Depth before breadth: Expand only after your existing operation runs smoothly without your daily presence. Systems matter more than hustle.
- 2Commissary models reduce fixed costs: A central kitchen with satellite distribution gives you geographic reach without the overhead of multiple storefronts.
- 3Use e-commerce as a data tool: Online sales collect customer emails and buying patterns that wholesale never reveals. Start small, learn fast.
- 4Niche brands should own their category: Trying to appeal to everyone dilutes what made you special. Become the go-to in your micro-community first.
- 5Seasonality dictates cash flow planning: Campus-based businesses must budget for closed months. Diversifying channels (food truck, delivery) can smooth revenue.
Founders Featured
Yadi Derisse
Yadi Derisse founded Yadi's Artisanal Empanadas to bring authentic, handcrafted empanadas to college campuses in New York. Starting with family recipes, she built a small operation into a growing business. Each empanada is made fresh daily, blending Latin American tradition with student convenience.
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Josh Chrenko
Josh Chrenko is the co-founder and President of Achigan Brand, a company creating smallmouth bass fishing gear and apparel. Based in Indianapolis, Indiana, he also founded medical device sales company 2 Circle Medical and co-hosts the Smallie Talk podcast.
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Zachary Bonder
Zachary Bonder is the founder of Noble Pies, a company that makes fresh-frozen pies for retail distribution. Based in New York, he's focused on scaling production while maintaining quality. His mission is to bring artisanal pie quality to grocery shelves without compromise.
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Rashid Ali
Rashid Ali is the founder and CEO of Chomps, a company producing high-quality, naturally sourced beef snack sticks. He started Chomps with a focus on clean ingredients and sustainable practices. Based in Florida, Rashid Ali has grown Chomps from a small operation into a nationally recognized bran...
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Pete Maldonado
Pete Maldonado is the co-founder and Chief Commercial Officer of Chomps, a company producing high-quality, naturally sourced beef snack sticks. He leads commercial strategy and operations, focusing on sustainable sourcing and product quality. Based in Florida, Pete Maldonado has helped grow Chomp...
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